Seattle, WA Consulting Firm to get $131,000 to study trash in Gwinnett

AJC Article by Patrick Fox: Gwinnett plans solid waste study


Gwinnett County commissioners approved a $131,000 study to redraw the county’s failed solid waste ordinance — a measure that generated a firestorm of protests and a rash of lawsuits last year.

The action follows a series of meetings held by a citizens panel to collect public input and make a proposal that would increase residential collection, encourage recycling and possibly reduce truck traffic in neighborhoods…

R.W. Beck is expected to make its recommendations based on a set of tasks:

• Review past, current and enjoined ordinances.

• Establish criteria based on counties with comparable populations and demographics.

• Conduct a series of public forums and surveys to gauge community priorities.

Gwinnett Commission Chairman Charles Bannister said the commission has not discussed the issue in detail, but he expects the board to focus on state mandates and the judge’s objections when a new ordinance is crafted.

Good thing they haven’t discussed it in detail especially since they think they need to spend 131k to make a plan.  Does that money come from the rainy day fund or petty cash?  Goes to show the MBSCT was nothing more than a pretty show.

No decisions yet on the Trash Plan. County may defer any decision for this year.

GDP article by Jamie Ward: Trash plan may get more time: County may allow current haulers to continue pickup until next year

So what does this mean? Since I read the article yesterday I went back and forth on my thoughts.   Maybe they are taking their time to get it right.  Then I laughed at that thought because of how bad the Old-New Plan was screwed up.  Maybe they have have no idea where to go next. Seems plausible especially if you have no real new ideas and the Old-New Plan was screwed up. Maybe they are still trying to figure out how to spin all the other great ideas lately like the stadium and the new budget and the raise in water rates and they just don’t have time for this and of course they really know that the Old-New Plan was screwed up. So maybe they defer and delay and maybe people’s anger and concern will be directed in another direction like the stadium and the budget which in all honesty we can do nothing about.  We have heard here on this  site “it’s just trash what’s the big deal.” The big deal is the way our county is being run. The big deal is the decisions that are being made just don’t make sense. The big deal is the county thinks they know what is best for the citizens and from the things they have done lately do you really think that is true?  The big deal is the erosion of my choices.  Today it’s trash what’s next?

Let’s revisit the last meeting of the MBSCT:

What we need to think about is who knows better what is best for us at the end of the day?  The BOC?  Really?  When the MBSCT was created we asked more than once for them to be sanctioned.   However, after attending the last meeting of the MBSCT I am pretty sure I don’t want this group to be speaking for me.  I had high hopes for this committee that they would come away from these meetings listening to the public and come up with ideas that would make sense and be some ideas that the BOC could agree was in the best interest of the people who live here Gwinnnett County.

  1. The majority of the MBSCT want each of us to have mandatory pickup with limited exceptions. The exceptions would have to be defined and I guess you would have to have a written note from someone somewhere to qualify for it otherwise you have to pay for the trash service.

    My only issue with this one is that this is one more thing the government is mandating like we don’t know that picking up trash is important.  Most of us are going to have trash service whether the BOC tells us to or not because we don’t want the trash to stay at our house. I am sure I am naive in thinking most people want trash service whether at their home or their business because they want their trash picked up. I really find it hard to believe that because someone does not have trash service that automatically makes them an illegal trash dumper. Again I am probably naive but I hope we live in a better county than that.

  2. The majority of the MBSCT are in favor of moving haulers into districts and allowing them to bid on the districts. IE: There would be 8 districts and a hauler could bid on one or more of these districts. This would allow for “one hauler one neighborhood” thus allowing for less traffic on the street. One thing I did not understand is how this allows for residents to choose. Does this allow for the pricing to be set in the bids through the county instead of through the residents themselves?

    Where is the free choice of the residents in this?  Again to hear the MBSCT say we need to go to a “One Hauler One Neighborhood” sounds great in theory but who is getting to choose the hauler. Not the residents. Yes I am happy the local businesses get the opportunity to bid again and stay in business but if I were them I would be wary of this approach as any. Why? Because what’s to stop them from getting undercut on their bid by bigger companies with more resources. What’s to stop one company from having more than area? What will that do to service? According to Commissioner Beaudreau having a SLA (Service Level Agreement) will keep performance high. What will keep the service at a high level is my ability to fire someone if I don’t like their service. Seems to me a business listens a lot better when you hit their pocketbook than if you hit their customer service line. I heard more than one trash hauler say this in the meeting. The ones that were there have no problem being held to that standard. For most that’s how they got where they are today

  3. The majority of the MBSCT believe the only way to make sure that all of us residents are toeing the line is to put the trash bill on our tax bill.

    This is how you stop illegal dumping? Nope, sorry but if you think making something mandatory that the majority of the people use anyway is going to stop illegal dumping then you are losing it. The people who dump illegally won’t give a rip and will continue to do what they do. If you really want to stop illegal dumping then get serious about stopping the people who do it. Don’t interject the government more in our life and punish us because the majority of the county do what we are supposed to and a small percentage don’t.

The findings of the MBSCT were supposed to be presented today. In the end it will be interesting to see what their findings end up being. Will things change? There was nothing on the agenda for the working session of the BOC. Where will the county go and what decisions will the make at the end of the 120 days?

2009 Budget Passes—Property Taxes increases to follow

GDP article by Camie Young: 09 budget calls for tax increase Base rates for water and sewer also raised

AJC article by Patrick Fox: Gwinnett passes budget; expect to pay more taxes Beaudreau says deferments in his district might be political payback

I would like to suggest you go out to the county website and watch the meeting from yesterday that was taped. The budget was not passed with ease and the 4-1 vote was very interesting.  We have been critical of Commissioner Beaudreau but yesterday he at least tried to stand up and say the budget wasn’t right.

“It would have kept us solvent, and we would have had a balanced budget,” Beaudreau said. “It’s regrettable that politics got in the way.”

We just wish he had been able to come up with alternatives before the meeting so that MAYBE some of the other members the BOC would have listened. However that did not happen and Chairman Bannister distanced himself from Commissioner Beaudreau on the budget just like he had done already with the Trash Committee.

Commissioners did approve a call by Bannister to move capital projects, including the opening of a Grayson police precinct, into future years. Beaudreau said the moves seemed politically motivated since three of the five projects were in his southern Gwinnett district.

March Meetings: BOCbusiness030309

Watching the rain fall and our water bills rise!!

Sitting here on this rainy day where they are calling for several inches of rain this weekend.  We know we are in a drought still and all of us welcome the rain.  Then as I watch the rain fall I see the article on the GDP article by Camie Young where we will see a potential increase in our water and sewer bills by the July.

The proposal would only increase a base rate for water customers by 20 cents a month, beginning in July, but it would add a base rate for sewer service for the first time. The base rate would be $5 a month, said Water Resources Deputy Director Peter Frank.

So $5.20 a month here doesn’t sound like much but that’s $62.40 a year. Couple that with higher potentially high property taxes and it all adds up. Read the article because more increases are coming in the next few years in your water bill.

Thank you Gwinnett County for doing your part in the drought it is greatly appreciated. Your consumption of water has dramatically fallen over the past 2 years.   Oh wait since you are not using as much water the Water Departments revenue has fallen.   Well we cant have that.  So what’s the answer.  Hit the the citizens in the wallet.   I don’t know about you but I am thinking of changing wallets because I think mine has a bulls-eye on it lately.

“It’s related to the financial situation. It will help generate revenue for us,” Frank said, adding that the big driver is the increasing cost of chemicals and power to treat drinking water and wastewater.

The Water and Sewerage Authority will make a recommendation on the rate change Monday, and commissioners are expected to make a final decision Tuesday.

As a side note the BOC is also voting next Tuesday reinstate the $1 fee for mailing in tag registration or decal renewal. They need to get it where they can get it I guess since today its not rainy enough to touch a rainy day fund.

Great Article on TalkGwinnett.com by Bob Griggs on the pending higher taxes

We would encourage everyone to read the article on talkgwinnett.com that Bob Griggs wrote. Please look at the cuts our BOC is doing and then what expenditures they have in the budget.

Are-you-ready-for-higher-taxes

The best one is that the BOC wants to clean up the trash in the county by supporting the now defunct trash plan yet they are eliminating the street/intersection sweeping program that will remove the liter thrown out car windows. You can’t have it both ways folks.

The other issue is that we want to build more parks and improve on the ones we have yet they want to eliminate weekend janitorial staff. I ask when do most people use the parks? Would it not make more sense to change the Parks staff work week from Monday to Friday to Weds till Sunday? Or better yet for the parks that have more than one person working in them ( most ) split the schedule so there is seven day per week coverage by at least one person.

We applaud Bob in his coverage of this he has done a great job!

www.talkgwinnett.com

BOC receives $1.6 billion 2009 Budget – Watch out for Property Tax Increases… County will not use rainy day fund.

Gwinnett County Website: Commissioners pass interim budget

Gwinnett County Website: Budget Summary

Gwinnett County Website: Budget Snapshot

Gwinnett County Website: Budget Comparison

How is the County going to make up a $62 million shortfall?  Through property taxes. That’s right folks watch your millage rate go up. No using of the Rainy Day fund here. Can you imagine how bad it will have to be raining to use the Rainy Day Fund if we are not in a downpour now?

While more safety officers whether Police or Fire is a good thing and goodness knows they deserve every penny they get it is hard for me to believe the county is really going to hide tax increases behind the need to hire more safety officers.

From the GDP Article

and officials said they are hoping for $65 million in additional revenues to make up the difference.

“We almost balanced the budget, and then the revenue projections came in,” Deputy County Administrator Mike Comer said. “The costs started going up at that point.”

Comer said the amount of a tax increase could become more clear in June, when officials are expected to have a clearer picture of the county tax digest, which could drop because of a decrease in real estate values.

Hoping? Hoping? Really? Start looking at things the county is spending their money on in the past year. From the failed trash plan to a baseball stadium and you see why they are hoping.  We can all look forward to paying our share of this.  So the people who own property will be the ones penalized.

From the AJC Article

Despite additional cuts made to the original budget proposed in December, the county is facing a revenue shortfall of about $62 million, said Jock Connell, county administrator. Without an economic turnaround, he said he didn’t see any way to avoid raising the millage rate on property.

AJC Article by Patrick Fox: Gwinnett’s $1.6B budget includes 136 new positions

WSB Article by Jon Lewis: Gwinnett Tax Increase Possible

GDP Article by Camie Young: Taxes may be raised

County back at it agian/ Do they care what we think or want?‏

Good morning:

It has become evident to me that the county is moving forward without any input form citizens and the “Blue Ribbon” committee is merely a grandstanding event. I gave this analogy this morning; the “Blue Ribbon” group is playing basketball while the county is playing soccer. The two are not even involved in the same sport so they can meet on a common field to compare the teams abilities.I think it is time for us as citizens to start contacting the folks at the county to let them know we want to be heard on an official level, not a “Beaudreau’s own doing” as Charles Bannister stated in the GDP article.

I will be at the courthouse at 1:30 today by Judge Clark’s room and can only stay until 2:45. If anyone can attend this would be great, Mack is going to be there as well.

We need support form everyone’s friends to email the county “leaders” about our frustrations on how they are handling this issue.

I also think that if the county is liable for this $25 million then someone in the legal department should be fired for not doing their job.

We need to request that these trash meeting occur on a weekend day as well since some of us cannot attend a 6:30 pm weekday night.

Thanks

Don S

Gwinnett County BOC approves waste station near church

GDP Article:Commissioners OK station

Gwinnett Daily Post Photo by Camie Young

GDP Staff Photo: Camie Young
Hundreds of members of Holy Vietnamese Martyrs’ Mission church hold signs urging commissioners to vote against a proposal to build a waste transfer station next to the church. Despite the protests Tuesday, the board approved the development with conditions.

AJC Article: Gwinnett approves waste station near church

Despite strong protest from a church and business owners, the Gwinnett County Commission voted 3-2 Tuesday to approve a waste transfer station on Shackleford Road.

Commissioner Shirley Lasseter told the audience — almost entirely members of the Holy Vietnamese Martyrs Catholic Mission adjacent to the site — that a series of conditions limiting how the property can be used would improve the project’s standing in the community…

…Commissioners Bert Nasuti and Mike Beaudreau voted against the project, with Chairman Charles Bannister, Kevin Kenerly and Lasseter casting yes votes….

This is from the agenda for the Work Session meeting today (please note the recommendation from Planning Commission and Planning Department is to deny):

2. Planning & Development/Glenn Stephens
2008-2771 RZC-09-003, Applicant: Mahaffey Pickens Tucker, LLP,
Owner: Lancaster Enterprises, LLC, M-1 to M-2, Solid Waste Transfer
Station, District 6 Land Lot 210 Parcel 010, 4400 Block of Shackleford
Road, 9.04 Acres, District 1/Lasseter (Tabled on 12/16/2008)(Public
hearing was held)[Planning Department Recommendation:
Deny][Planning Commission Recommendation: Deny]

2008-2772 SUP-09-002, Applicant: Mahaffey, Pickens, Tucker LLP,
Owner: Lancaster Enterprises, LLC, for a Special Use Permit in a M-2
(Proposed) Zoning District to Allow a Solid Waste Transfer Station,
District 6 Land Lot 210 Parcel 010, 4400 Block of Shackleford Road, 9.04
Acres, District 1/Lasseter (Tabled on 12/16/2008)(Public hearing was
held)[Planning Department Recommendation:Deny]

BOC Agendas & Minutes 2009

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Update from meeting with Chairman Bannister‏

Good Morning:

Well, I have been busy with my business and some personal matters so I apologize on the lack of updates.

The meeting last Friday with Mr. Bannister and Jock Connell went well from what I interpreted.

Here is the bullet points:

1) They know that they need to do a better job at marketing the new plan.

2) Jock Connell stated there would be public meetings that are available to all and well advertised. This will be a series of meetings.

3) The plan will take about 12 months to develop as Mr. Connell sees it.

4) The state wants to see a 20% reduction in solid waste going into landfills.

5) They still feel that we need to have only one carrier in each subdivision for the safety of our kids and pollution matter.

6) They said they will solicit input from the waste haulers.

Mr. Connell stated that Judge Clark has given them the road map to fix the problems and this could be done in a matter of days. He feels this would be the wrong thing to do and understands the need for public opinion and input.

I inquired if there was anything I could do to help and they both indicated that they are not sure what needs to happen currently. The BOC has requested that Jock and his staff formulate an action plan on how to solve this issue in the next 120 days. Until the BOC makes a decision there is really nothing I can do to assist them. I do believe that Jock Connell has the best interest in mind for the citizens of Gwinnett.

On a side note I am wondering if anyone has heard from Mike Beaudreau about the ‘blue ribbon committee”? If you are interested in joining this please call his office.

Thanks,
Don S

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